even though white supremacists have killed as many people since 9/11, if not more, than jihadi terrorism. one of the things people say, former national security officials, we need a statute criminalizing domestic terrorism and material support of domestic terrorism. you can prosecutors cute people who raise money and send it to isis but can't do the same if they raise money in support of white supremacists. >> ken, can i just interrupt? there is nothing on the books that would allow that to happen? >> there is a lot that criminalizes domestic terrorism but no penalties. you don't have the same kind of predicate. the fbi can't do the same thing in terms of eavesdropping, chat rooms and listening to what people are saying under the fisa law. they can't do that with white supremacists. in fairlfairness, there is no a