up. they are now at 21 confirmed dead in el paso, texas. that brings the total number killed in the two mass shootings in this country over the weekend to 30 now, 30 people killed in two separate shootings in the united states over this weekend. i want to bring in nbc's ben collins now, msnbc terrorism analyst evan coleman, senior partner at flash point also with me. ben, let me start with you. as pete just mentioned there, this network provider, cloud fair, cutting off services to 8chan. is that going to have any sort of measurable impact? >> cloud flair would like you to believe that it is not. this website will jump to a different provider. it's not what happened last time they banned a white nationalist. they banned "the daily stormer" and they've had a hard time finding hosting in a country that allows this sort of hateful