i know that i will not be standing on the side of my children's graves and people aren't going to be patting me on the back and saying, there's nothing you could have done. i did. keith morrison: oakes claimed mark stover shot first. thus, the claim he now made, it was self-defense, even though no evidence ever surfaced to suggest stover was in possession of any firearm at all or that stover had ever arranged any meeting with oakes. and as for the story that he was a hired gun for the opdyckes, just not true, said michiel oakes. a great many people believe that one or both of the opdyckes are involved. were they involved? not at all. keith morrison: but of course, it was all michiel's story about a crazed dog whisperer, threats to his children, all that fear. i mean, who else says that besides you? and what evidence is there that he ever said such a thing?