afghanistan, and counted the number of turrets that make up former russian tanks dotting the landscape. what is it like to hear the president say, we could win it there in two days, four days at the outside? >> well, you know, there's two ways of looking at it. in one sense, it was just blather, political blather, it didn't have any meaning at all. on the other hand, it is one of the most horrific illegal statements ever made in the oval office. it implies that the u.s. armed forces actually considered and gave the president a plan to use nuclear weapons against a civil war whose government we're supporting. there could not possibly have been a jcs analysis of that option. it would have been illegal.