debate really is over whether to replace the affordable care act with something else, something better, something different, and not focused really on donald trump? >> no, i think we've got to realize where we are. we are so far away from this game. in football parlance, we haven't even started preseason games yet. this is the august two-a-days. i'm sure that we have a lot of time to winnow down this field. there's only seven of us that have made the september debate stage. i think this will get more on a fine point. especially when you start coming out of those two early primary states and get ready to head towards nevada and south carolina, you'll see a very small group of us still there. so a lot of the hand wringing right now over what's happening in the summer over these debates, that doesn't speak to our party. i think the themes -- by the way, the policy plans are really important, but remember, we have not always seen the person with the best policy plans become the president of the united states. case in point where we are right now. we need folks that can speak to the heart, to the gut as well as