have cut defense spending by 11% and non-defense spending by 9%. so we wanted to avoid that. then the senate also wanted to get any possibility of shutdown or default past the next election. then secretary of the treasury mnuchin desperately wanted to do away with this debt ceiling problem because he saw that we were going to run out of the ability to borrow in early september and wanted to get it done before that eventuality occurred. >> uh-huh. >> again, it was just a very lucky confluence of desires and motivations there. >> certainly not the common standard these days given how toxic the relationship has been. >> right. >> i also want to talk about the presidential candidates running for the democratic nomination. they have been -- with@ -- they're basically highlighting the lingering economic