attacks on the squad, the four congresswomen of color, just a couple weeks ago. there seems to be a belief on his part if he attacks people of color who are in congress, that's going to be effective with his base. it's not going to alienate more people than it turns out to the polls. >> dave, what do you think, is that going to work with the base here? >> it could very well work with the base. but you got to almost think and squint really hard and remember what the president said during the state of the union address when he called on all americans, democrats and republicans to reject the politics of retribution and that seemed like a long time ago we had that conversation. >> long time ago. >> nevertheless, two things are going to happen. donald trump is not going to quit. he's going forward with any attack that's going to play with what he considers to be a base of supporters who will come out and not only support him in the 2020 election, year and a half