well known white male is the only one that has a real shot. absolutely, i think the quinnipiac polls shows what it is the reality. this has come down to three states and 20 to 25,000 votes in each state. wisconsin, pennsylvania, ohio. these are states in which the president did not romp over hillary clinton. there were serious voter suppression issues in wisconsin in 2016, today if you had a candidate that was marginally more popular than hillary clinton, the president loses all three of those states and would probably lose the presidency. >> let's look ahead to the debate on tuesday, as you know, biden has been a target for kamala harris and cory book er. take a listen at this exchange. >> for a guy who helped to be an architect of mass incarceration,