where it describes one of trump's lawyers calling one of michael flynn's lawyers and in this my mouthed way and hemming and hawing and suggesting flynn might get a pardon. i spoke with a doj official upwards of two years about the relationship trump had with lawyers and had person based on their knowledge of his history and having a sense early on, said look, trump view lawyers like they're tools and sledgehammers that he can use to get his way. >> some lawyers are tools. >> eleanor, you wanted to disagree with something. >> yeah, the roy cohn image always comes up when you think of donald trump. but it's a good thing that a light is going to be shined on this report that says if we could have exonerated the president from wrongdoing we would have done so and we didn't. mr. barr in a burst of candor recently said he was puzzled why