always on. he was mocked and an agent said what do you have a meeting to go to. just granular detail we're able to get talking to him humanizes this picture even more. >> from a broad perspective, how many are there out there? >> jacob and i got a report based on 30 children who had gone through the same facilities. we understand that's the tip of the iceberg. there are over 200 reports they call significant incident reports. not always clear what happens down the road. that's just in yuma. we understand the clint facility in the el paso texas and the rio grand sector of texas. these are other areas at river capacity. even agent doings their best every day could be overwhelmed. it seemed it could have an effect on your psyche and a lot of these children were not treated well. one other thing is the drinking