thing that thing that i as a journalist would look for, the absolute nut -- i'm not going to do the perry mason thing because you never get a perry mason -- >> perry mason para docks. >> there you go. the question is why didn't mueller indict him. was it because the president didn't commit a crime? or because there was the jurisdiction, the office of legal counsel guidelines from the justice department saying, you can't indict a sitting president? that would be the one question i would want to have clarity on. and the problem is that he's probably just going to say what's exactly in the report which he said in that brief press conference. >> you say he'll never answer that. >> never. >> you dealt with the team, take a look at how he's ducked in the past. >> yeah. >> i hesitate to speculate because i have just a piece of the puzzle also. >> i would have to check to make certain. >> in every investigation, particularly a fast-moving investigation, there are steps taken that may or may not workout. >> it's very difficult to