defending his message. his surrogates can't even do it either. here's trump's mini me miller accusing trump's targets of doing it again and again and again. >> she's saying america if her view right now is garbage. >> i want to put something up on that regard. i want to put up a tweet from donald trump from 2014. he wrote -- the united states under president obama has truly become the gang that couldn't chew straight. everything he touches turns to garbage. that isn't aoc, that's donald j. trump. >> you're at this interview, chris, you're continuing to conflate. donald trump's criticisms of president obama versus aoc's deep and systemic criticisms of the country itself. >> joining our conversation, waugh nita toliver, director for campaigns -- i mean, i can't. throughout this interview, chris, who is he?