with abby philipps and a number of a black female journalist. he's tested the waters and seeing that his base is not only responding well, but responding extremely well and are parroting back those things he is saying. because he is escalating the behavior. he will continue to do it until he stopped. that to me is what it is indicative of. until he is accountability. the base is rewarding it and the democratic party has not done much to hold him accountable. why would he stop? >> daniella, you worked for one of donald trump's chief triggers, president obama. when donald trump led the birtherism crusade, that produced a lot of threats to