four votes cast next year in democratic primaries around the country. so that advantage for biden is the reason he is still the overall leader in the democratic race. and the question, morgan, it raises obviously is how durable, how sustainable is that going to be for joe biden? >> which is also interesting why we see these other candidates now picking up their courtship of those african-american votes. and joining me is the former governor of colorado, john hickenlooper. thank you so much for being with us. >> glad to be with you. >> you have a big debate coming up, but before we get into that, the news that dominated this week, president's attacks on those four freshman congresswomen. >> this is not the first time he has displayed this ability to infuriate and enrage people with racist comments. you know, this is clearly a political strategy. and i think, you know, you've got to be very blubt and say