potentially nefarious conduct. >> mieke, can you believe we're living in an era where we have to discuss the a.g., as mr. kirschner did, as the president's potential personal lawyer stepping in to something like this? >> it's really unfortunate, but we've seen over and over again that that is what this president is looking for in an attorney general. when you read through the mueller report and his complaints to don mcgahn that he wants his own roy cohn, that he wants someone who's going to protect him, and that was the case that barr was going to make to him in applying for the job. i think there are a lot of questions about whether or not the prosecution of justice in this justice department will be evenhanded or whether or not the president will put his thumb on the scale. especially given his close relationship with epstein. >> frank, there was also this new video that came out this morning. it's been airing all day. this dates back to 1992. jeffrey epstein on the left there in the denim shirt. on the right, by the way, this