>> were the president's tweets that said go back racist, yes or no. >> no, and i do not believe the speaker of the house was racist when those individuals on her side of the aisle who are claiming the president is racist, when they claimed she was racist either. i do not believe that. i believe this is about ideology, this is about socialism versus freedom. >> joe, help our viewers understand this. you have been in the united states capitol, why is that a difficult thing for mitch mcconnell, arguably the most powerful man other than donald trump in washington right now to just say that's true, that these comments should not take place, we shouldn't hear them from the united states president. why is that so difficult and then move on. i don't understand it from either of those two men? >> i don't understand it either because i don't think mitch mcconnell should be punished for saying it's racially insensitive. kevin mccarthy is complete different. here's a man who said donald trump had been paid off by the russians until donald trump won