that when the question was asked, who would replace private health care with the government-run program elizabeth warren threw up her hand, like bernie sanders. it's clear she's ready to stake herself out, her team feels like this is a way for her to win the nomination, that this is where the democratic voter field leans left. and go back to the middle if she gets the nomination. >> don calloway, what's your take? >> it's important to make sure democrats know you're not losing your private insurance. a public option is what was most popular about obamacare before the actual bill that became elected. the public option is what would make private insurance companies lower their prices because they would have to compete with quality government-issued health care programs. i think that beth is right. it's going to be the kitchen table stuff that's going to be most crucial among the electorate. >> my thanks to both of you.