offering suctianctuary to immigs that fear i.c.e. is looking for them. >> the reporting coming from "the wall street journal," also the mayor bill de blasio saying this has happened, this attempt, but no warrants. what are we hearing right now? >> i.c.e. uses an administrative warrant to try to get people out of their houses and when you talk to lawyers, they'll tell you that that often is a knock on the door and a made up story. often times it's your car has been broken into or something has happened down the street. come take a look. the person comes outside and it's at that point that they're detained. the problem is those are not warrants signed by judges. so it's quite possible that what we're hearing in this reporting is that these administrative warrants were presented to people who are now very well educated on their rights. we should remind americans that i.c.e. as a government agency operates in the shadows. its goal is to detain as many