of the swamp sit idly by. >> those are all members of congress, make policy, help me. >> you know, look, it's really clear that what's happening at the border has been driven by the policies towards central america and ripping away aid to the triangle countries. it's also true that democrats, especially in the house, have to get on the same page about what our border policy is. i mean, clearly it's not open borders, but it's also not continuing to throw money, good money after bad that keeps people in the kind of conditions that they're in. and, in fact, after the border bill passed, border funding bill passed, is when we saw the incident reports that came out showing even more egregious conditions than we -- >> i don't think anybody thinks we should have more money so we