washington bureau chief for usa today and glen kirschner is a former federal prosecutor. thanks to all of you for being with us. susan, let me start with you. the president and his attorney general for this matter at this press conference today very clearly did not want this to look like he was backing down, but this is a president who was saying he was going to fight through the courts to get this question on the census next year. he now says that's not going to happen. and what he says is going to happen instead, basically all these agencies, all these departments coordinating is something that the census bureau had already recommended as an alternative to putting this on the census next year. >> so just saying it's not a cave does not make it not a cave. just the attorney general saying congratulations, mr. president, does not make it a congratulatory moment. and the executive order is not at all clear that it's necessary to have a new executive order to give publicly available data from federal agencies to the commerce department that would seem to be something that would be easy to do. and in fact, as you noted, the government already calculates the number of illegal immigrants