that has allowed this administration to be as aggressive. why -- mueller's great till he's got to be great. when he has to be great in front of anybody, he says i'm not going to say anything besides is the report. he shouldn't be afraid to expound upon the truth in the mueller report. that's what makes the administration feel we can pr this to death and get out of it. >> if you know anything about bob mueller, weise knew from the beginning of this he wasn't going to go outside the four corners of those pages. luckily there are 448 of those pages. as you have rightly noted not many of which people have read. there was a collective let down when we heard from mueller in may that he didn't want to talk to the public about it. even if he sticks to those 448 pages, there's so much in there. it's the difference between reading the book and watching an the movie. it's going to have an effect regardless of whether or not we get any new information outside of that report.