chief justice roberts called president trump's reason contrived. you don't see that in supreme court opinions. >> if it was contrived then, what they would be coming up with next would be publicly contrived. we will have watched them publicly condrive it. >> condrive squared. exactly. >> underline this. the fact that they are changing lawyers is you are losing the a team, the very best experienced litigators for exactly this kind of case involving government interests being decided by the supreme court. they are moving down the ladder to people who have never handled matters like this. this is not an upgrade in legal experience handling this case. >> right. it's not like you are sending in the b team. you are sending in the f team. i don't mean disrespect to the