further and gave them a little tutorial about which buttons to push once they actually get into the phone system. craig, do you know what i saw that as, i saw that as a direct rebuke of how then u.s. attorney acosta handled the victims in this case because we came to learn that he violated the victims' rights, actually violated the law, the crime victims rights act, by keeping them in the dark and not giving them their voice, not letting them have their say as victims. so i think u.s. attorney berman was sending a pretty powerful message that, no, no, no, when the southern district of new york handles this case, victims will be heard, unlike what then u.s. attorney now labor secretary acosta did back in 2008 in florida. >> wendy murphy is also a former federal prosecutor, you are also a child advocate. i know you have worked with cases like this.