it doesn't mean they're able to say. it's very hard to go through the it asylum process. most are turned down. but there's no reason to mistreat individuals as they're awaiting an asylum hearing. es for i don't know how we can get to that core change unless we have some real leadership from republicans inside congress who say enough is enough. >> i want you to respond to something that jay johnson, president obama's secretary for homeland security wrote today in the "washington post." and here's one part of it. "we cannot, as some democratic candidates now propose, embrace a policy to not deport those who enter or remain in this country illegally unless they kmat crime, this is tabt mount to a public deck leeration that our borders are open to all. how do you respond to that?