take these winning issues and turn them into losing issues in a general election? in terms of winners and losers, i have to tell you that the trump people are very, very happy this morning, the way that the democrats are positioning themselves outside what they regard as outside the mainstream of american politics. again, donald trump doesn't need to win this election. he needs four democrats to lose it. >> but elizabeth warren wasn't surrounded by people who are raising their hands when they say let's wipe out private insurance. let's actually share that. >> who here would abolish their private health insurance in favor of a government-run plan? just a show of hands to start off with. >> victoria, do you agree with charlie's point? there was ten people up there and only two raised their hands. >> this is where we really saw the clear divide of the democratic party. two camps, the moderate camp and the progressive camp i have to