would forgive every drop of student wealth. >> it doesn't make any sense. it just doesn't make any sense. we have a huge problem with student debt. there's things we have to do, lowering the rates, expanding pell grants, creating more percentage of income repayment plans. buff this notion of taking $2 trillion and allocating all student debt relief, will people just going to college, will theirs be free? or how about people who got a trade like an electrician, we have nothing for them? universal pre-k, nothing for them? it doesn't make any sense. it's a ridiculous proposal. . >> to prepare for don't, you have been watching old debates. >> yes. >> the republican field back when i was covering that campaign. incredibly crowded. more than a dozen candidates on stage at a time. >> right. >> what are you picking up from that and are you taking tips