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be a vote later today. elaborate on your point about management versus funding. what does your reporting indicate about what breakdown is happening here. >> about 2, 2 1/2 weeks ago, we got these numbers that were staggering, that showed how many children were stuck in these border stations across the border. most was in the rio grande valley and el paso where the clint facility was, and then in yuma. we said, okay, they're overcrowded because yes they have a lot of unaccompanied children across the border, and there's not enough capacity for them to be sent to human services where they would be better taken care of. it was sort of a backlog. now it seems like, okay, even if they do have more funding if they can expand capacity, there's some basic human needs that aren't being taken care of. the maximum time they're supposed to be there, 72 hours, they're staying weeks, that can be part of the backlog. even if you're there for 72 hours, a fresh change of clothes, a shower, toothbrush, soap, having people take care of

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