this is the first time we've seen a special counsel in the situation like this who has been so reluctant to speak publicly. >> yes. and congressman adam schiff, the chairman of the select committee on intelligence, told rachel in the last hour that the special counsel's office would not consider this a friendly subpoena, just a proforma subpoena. you subpoena me and i'll happily come in and testify. they wouldn't consider it to be that, so clearly robert mueller did not want to do this. he wanted to stick to his pledge to say nothing more other than what he wrote in the report. but as harry said, he is a dutiful guy and he's not the kind of man who is going to -- going to rebuff a dually issued subpoena from congress. >> let's listen to what chairman schiff told rachel in the last