trump in the general elections, is it a strength psychologically among democratic voters right now a candidate would get into a controversy regardless what the controversy is about and not back down. do democrats see an ingredient there that would match up well with trump maybe wouldn't have looked at in the past? >> i don't know if we want to deal with too broad a brush there. the president demonstrated you don't apologize. and biden saying i would be admitting an error. he can be summed up as familiarity. a long resume and around a long time. somebody asked him earlier in the campaign, what kind of democrat are you? i'm an obama-biden democrat, man. that's the association he wants.