the candidate with the ideas? or is it all about that big break out viral moment? who will fall victim to their vulnerabilities, and who will overcome them? our big question today is what's the best strategy for 2020 democrats looking to stand out on that debate stage? joining me now is msnbc correspondent garrett haake in tampa, jennifer palmer ri, and former aide to jeb bush and mitt romney. we're going to start with you on the road. you're with the o'rourke campaign today. what are they up to? how are they preparing for the big debate this week? >> reporter: jeff, o'rourke is rolling out his plan to help veterans. this is from during his time when he served on the veterans affairs committee. the plan talks about setting up a trust fund to make sure we are spreading out the cost of going to war. we spoke about decisions he would make as commander in chief, how to take america into