looking for is who can do toe to toe with donald trump. that is going to be the underlying question with them. so they could speak pretty. but if they can't feel like they are presidential like they could actually knock the sky down, that is going to basically be a ding on them. for a lot of these folks, it will be a marathon. they don't want to tarnish whoever the democratic is. it is a different type of race where before you wanted to ding down your candidates as fast as possible. there is an understanding unz tone that whoever ends up being the democratic nominee, they can't be bruised and that's really tough. >> could i sound a slight dissent on that? >> sure. >> denies are going to come out early. that's one reason for this crowded field. and despite this talk about keeping our nominee intact, it's going to be a real brawl because everyone in there professes friendship, bernie sanders for senator warren. but they're all in it to win it.