clyburn. he wants the success through the south carolina voters via calling on clyburn and his work with criminal justice reform. we were talking about that, how important that would be in this case for them in south carolina. >> ultimately jim clyburn is the most significant political figure in south carolina, but also more broadly, he's a beloved long time member of the house, he's in house leadership. his word means a lot to a lot of democrats, particularly african-american democrats. he's someone who's going to get a lot of the attention from candidates, all of them today. this con recollection is important. yes, it's a cattle call. we've seen a lot of cattle equals in this race so far. i was at the california democratic convention a few weeks ago, that was a cattle call. they all went up to iowa for the iowa hall of fame dinner. everyone's kissing the rings that need to be done. south carolina is where african-american voters make their mark earliest in the