out in the last lines that you've never worn it since, and it was still hanging exactly as you left it that day unlaundered and that's what you're wearing on the cover of "new york magazine." why do you keep it? why was it there that way? >> well, do you have lucky clothes? do you have, like a lucky jeans? >> i have a baseball glove. oldest thing i own. >> lucky glove? >> yes. from high school. >> so we have lucky things and this dress was unlucky. so when i hung it up, i wasn't thinking, oh, in sis a -- i just never wanted to put it on again. because it had -- horrible memories. so it just hung there. i didn't bag it up. i didn't do anything. just sat there behind the raincoat. that's it. >> i want to listen to what mya wily said two hours ago on chris hayes show about this evidence that you describe including the clothing.