involved in the campaign, their goal and strategy is to simply follow the president's lead. so whatever he says, whatever he tweets, whatever he decides to do when he's on the campaign trail, that's what they are going to build their strategy out of. and that's not something that's going to benefit him when comes to attracting support among the types of voters who didn't support him in 2016. >> joe biden, who is the front runner, although he's been having a tough day or two, seems to be make iing the opposite be. he's running on this idea that we want to go back to a more normal time. he obviously has been doubling down on this position that you have to figure out how to work with people that disagree with you. what's your sense? there's a division in the democratic party about whether that's the way to fwo or whether they need to be to beat you by running the playbook against you. >> that's exactly right.