impeachment is arguably the best track he has to winning re-election. you can paint yourself as the victim, but the president himself, though, is sort of growing sla growing very antsy about that. >> he has to hope that balances out -- >> you know this guy. by the way by calling the trump criminal investigations doesn't mean you get to impeachment if you don't want to, but this guy is the simple communicator. it's a versus b. once you give him impeachment there's no longer discussion about all these specific things that are pretty spectacular or heinous in each one of them, and you allow him a simple message, they're trying to take your president away. and it doesn't even become about the issues. and on top of that it's a loser. you're not going to get 20 republican senators. >> well, you've got me there. the strategy would never be to go with impeachment, but i do think the character issue is