vulnerable infrastructure system, particularly an election system, and significantly harden that without white house buy-in, even if there's tons of appetite within the department, it's just really hard to do. so for the president to say this type of illegal foreign election meddling is actually welcome just sends a message to the folks at dhs, whose mission it is to make elections secure, that the white house doesn't care. >> a source close to chris wray said to me, he won't listen. i said, really? because a president that tweets about coups all the time, that seems like a -- it seems to chris wray and andy mccabe said on this show yesterday he's in a terrible position not because of what this looks like for him, to have the president so e mamascue and undermine his authority, but the entire workforce heard the president of the united states say the fbi director is wrong. >> it puts people in the bureau in a really difficult spot.