get attention. raise money, get to policy later. >> buttigieg has said before he got into this race that he feels that has been a failing on the part of the democratic party. that they don't focus enough on narrative. he's really trying to do that, kimberly, as jake points out. today he is going to be really making a counterpoint to president trump. he's going to try to make that case. can he do that at this stage in the game without also focusing on biden. everyone is going to be focused on trump, but does he also need to focus on biden who is the frontrunner in this case. >> he has to focus on donald trump, everyone does. if you talk to democratic voters who they are looking for in a candidate is somebody who can beat donald trump. he has to show that he can do that and talk about policy, too. i think policy is really resonating among voters. that's why you see folks like elizabeth warren growing and getting that name recognition and uv mooing forward. foreign policy is hard. most people, most democrats are