impeachment. that said, the hearing that's coming up today has generated a little head scratching. i talked earlier with an aide close to members pushing for more aggression when it comes to this impeachment talk. this aide told me they found it perplexing, don't understand besides bringing in historical context how exactly this particular moment is going to change things, vis-a-vis congress' relationship with the white house, and potentially see it as an effort of a red herring making members believe that leaders on capitol hill are doing more when it comes to impeachment than they actually may be doing. remember, even though we know chairman nadler according to cnn's reporting pushed pelosi to be more aggressive on this topic she doesn't in there yet and that's generating internal frustration. consternation with the house democratic caucus. >> betsy, thank you. elizabeth holtzman and kelly o'donnell on the hill.