step to open a formal inquiry to make this decision. this is not future presidents. this is a moment where democrats have to stand up and defend the constitution. >> so you hey that all out. on the hearings themselves, are the democrats wrong to put john dean's, you know, greatest hits back in the day testimony ahead of say, bob mueller? >> no. look. we're continuing to bring, to do what we have to do to get the witnesses before the committee. the conversations with mr. mueller continue. we're going to bring contempt against two witnesses. >> the contempt is important. we've been covering that. on the mueller side, wouldn't you want to hear from mueller before john dean? and hasn't he made clear what his position is? he told you last week publicly, and jerry nadler says they've