planet. joining our conversation christine quinn. thanks for coming in. that was bernie -- excuse me, basically everybody versus joe biden with a handful of people attacking bernie. is that a preview of what we're going to see as the debates get under way? i thought there was a nonaggression pack. >> yeah. >> what happened to that. >> it happens all the time in politics, they work out very well. it's a question they have to answer, do you spend your time in front of the american people saying something about yourself because you you're not going to have a lot of time, do you define yourself or do you spend all of your time taking joe biden down? it's a big, big decision. what often can happen in debates is that a lot of people will decide to take the front runner down and then the debates lose