francisco, not boyy a long shot. take a look at another local paper. same deal, not on the front page at all. "new york times" front page but still on the right, not the far left where you'd want a big story of yours to land. what do you make, both of you, in order, starting with michael, of the very divergent responses out there and the worst response that you can have which is it not make the front page at all? >> yeah, that's the most important part and those little squibs on the bottom of the "san francisco chronicle" and others. there's great anticipation among liberals inside the beltway and who are very tuned in whose heads are inside the beltway, wherever they may live. there's great anticipation that this is going to move the needle in a big way, mueller speaking, and that it's going to change public opinion and it's going to change numbers on impeachment. i'm not so sure. i'm not so sure.