and now that's barr. so there were things outside the justice department that barr wanted to see or have access to that he may have been impeded. and that is why he has these new authorities. that is sort of our best guess at this point because there's no other, you know, explanation i guess. >> there is no other explanation, joyce. there is no other explanation than what has been articulated in the last ten minutes. this is a political power grab. this is so outside the norms of law enforcement and intelligence. and i think one of the most alarming things is that the only people jumping up and down in opposition are people out of government and out of elected office. what strikes you, joyce, about this moment and this development? >> you know, i do think that this is shocking. the problem is this whole administration is so shocking that sometimes the outrage meter, it's hard for the public