same. at the same time as a strategist, be polling the american public. what is the tipping point. when does the american public start to get an appetite. like it or not, impeachment problem isn't a legal one, it's a political one. i'm with nancy, i keep stacking my chips, stacking my chips. you will go high in at some point. why not have as high a stack as possible. >> what would she say? >> she's been having a strategy since day one. she's still a speaker meeting with the president on infrastructure, prescription drugs. there's a constitutional office, she's trying to engage with the president. the pressure from the committee charms. >> she's the grown-up in the room. >> 1974 articles of impeachment, article 3 was about -- was a narrow article of impeachment. it was about abuse of power, the white house refusing requests from congress. she has to wonder, and i've talked to house democrats about this, could she begin an impeachment proceeding without trying to impeach the president. i know it sounds like the same thing. could you launch an impeachment