them bravery and unlearn perfectionism. and to me a problem that we have right now with the leadership gap is that women are waiting to be perfect to live, women are waiting to be perfect to lead. and we'll never close the leadership gap if we don't do that. >> to realize that no one's perfect. >> and perfect is boring! >> yes, it is! as someone who has been imperfect for 40 years. reshma, thank you so much. i've always enjoyed you. thanks for coming on to talk about the book. and to catch more of our series, "kids under pressure" here on msnbc, "nbc nightly news," the "today" show, and nbcnews.com, we've got it across all of our platforms. but we want to go back now to our breaking news. this situation that continues to unfold in oklahoma. several flood rescues are happening right now. millions of americans still in the path of severe storms, as well. we are going to go back live to oklahoma and also take a look at where those storms are headed, next, right half. t half