committees that are in many ways, like judiciary here, able to move the ball forward, are not yet there. but you do have more rank and file members who are saying they believe that with the white house rebuffing them on different kinds of investigations and ignoring subpoenas and doing other things that democrats on capitol hill believe are obstructing their ability to do their own oversight and their constitutional duties as elected members of congress, that's where the, kind of the sort of, if you look at the whole array of things, you've got a lot of people feeling the same way about impeachable offenses, different opinions when it comes to what steps to take. now, you played jerrold nadler, the committee chairman who is a democrat from this hearing. don mcgahn is the former white house counsel who was told by the president, instructed through his lawyer not to appear. the republican ranking member of this committee, doug collins, had a very different take on today's proceedings.