too far to the left on guns and some other issues and coal in order to still win the trump voter? >> yeah, chuck. even in that 2016 race, look, i've besign gun-related bills a vetoed some of them. ultimately i think we need to start looking at this as a public health issue not just a political issue. when i was growing up as a kid, the nra was a gun safety and hunting organization. now it's nothing more than a political organization. if we were looking at this as a public health issue, gun owners want to make sure that guns don't end up in unlawful hands or used wrong. even they support universal background checks. i think that there is a lot more that can be done along the way, and over a fourth of the time that i've been asked to lower flags both under this administration and the previous, it had to do with mass