defense agreement, which happens automatically when someone is cooperating which by this point they well knew that flynn was cooperating, once the joint defense agreement goes away, there's no basis for him to be sharing for flynn's lawyer to be sharing information anymore with trump's lawyer. i mean, it's not only that he can't.an he shouldn't be, right? because now we have attorney/client privilege be basically in effect again. that's how it sort of comes back to cloak the communications. so i mean, this was sounds to me like he didn't like the answer he was getting because he didn't like the fact that flynn was cooperating. that's what he was -- that's what dowd or whoever it was who was communicating was getting angry at. right? it was the fact that flynn was actually cooperating. and to get angry at a witness for cooperating is trying to dissuade them from cooperating. that is an obstructive act in my