the met is not the first to make this move. other notable museums turni ing down sackler donations are the american museum, smithsonian and tait galleo tate galleries -- >> it's ana -- i say his name wrong every time. so what's the problem, i know the problem with the sacklers and purdue pharma and the opioids. everybody is mad at them and there seems to be good reason. they, of course, denied wrongdoing in most cases. what's wrong with taking the money of rich people if they do things that you don't like? >> there's broughtly two ways to take the money of rich money, as you put it, one is phil lontpan.