>> i mean, look, yes. i think this whole issue of, i mean, i cannot count the number of times people on all the networks said, we have significant evidence of collusion. members of congress. between the president, himself and the russians, some called it treasonous, others collusion or conspiracy with the russians, interference by the russians knowingly made by the president. all those statements were made. the special counsel, the department of justice took a contrary view. there was not collusion. the basis upon which this investigation was launched, and the conclusion was unequivocal there was none. >> can you maybe shed light on this for us? a question we've been asking a lot. why did so many of those around donald trump on the question of contacts with russia lie about it if there was nothing nefarious going on? >> i cannot address that as the president's lawyer. it's not something we would know