playing field, on a different jurisdiction, not part of the mueller investigation. >> so, katie, what do you think? i mean, is ashleigh right? do you think we're talking about southern district of new york for donald trump jr.? >> at a minimum. i mean, the litany of potential pitfalls that could be facing somebody like donald trump jr., ivanka trump, jared kushner, the list goes on and on, involves what, the trump foundation, the trump inaugural committee, the trump organization, campaign finance violations, tax fraud. i mean, the list goes on and on. and so, i think that people have been saying on one side, look, there has been no indictment of donald trump. well, yeah, i mean, so that doesn't mean that robert mueller didn't give the evidence to bill barr through his report to be able to state that there was enough there, he just couldn't do it. we don't know. but we have people on the side who are disappointed that sitting president of the united states didn't get indicted. i mean, what a sad day that would have to be. but i think what we need to do is wait and see, because barr's only going to give, quote,